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Herbert T,

My Daughter, Son-in-Law, Granddaughter all got the Covi-19 virus, they all got through it, said it was like a bad flu.

There are valid reasons IMHO for not taking the vaccine, you listed a few, I have cited a few.

My position from the start of this vaccine question has been that it's a personal choice, if you believe it's safe and the "right thing to do" then go for it. If you don't believe it's safe and not right for you then don't get it. I'm not going to shame you or force you one way or the other.

As to your question "If these anti-vax folks had family members that were ACTUALLY dying FROM The Rona, do you think people would still be anti-vax? "..... I don't know, but I'll bet if there were anti-vax family members of the person who died the day after getting vaccinated they weren't moved to the pro-vax side.